Zimbabwe forum: Religion - The Idea of Promises
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7 Jun 2015 22:37

Think about the whole idea of promises, especially broken ones.

How did you feel about those who broke their promise to you?

How much difference did it make whether a person intended to keep it and then either couldn't, or changed his or her mind, or if you realized that the person never meant to keep it?

What happened to your level of trust after the promise was broken, whatever the reason?

What does it mean to you to know that you can trust God's promire?

Or perhaps the question should be, How can you learn to trust God's promises in the first place?

9 Jun 2015 10:16

“When I say 'I won't
hurt you', it's a promise,
which can and will be
kept but it does not come
from me without a
breakdown of what it

It does not mean we will never disagree, nor
does it mean that you will always like everything which I say or do. It does not mean that you will never hurt yourself by behaving in a way which is damaging to a
relationship or by
behaving in a way which would ultimately result in my withdrawal from your life. What it does mean is
that I can promise all that I expect in terms of loyalty, honor and
respect. It means I am

It also means that I will not intentionally or carelessly behave in
a way which causes
upset or doubt. It means, at the lowest level, 'You will break these terms before I do.' Communication is
essential. Trust is

Be completely honest and don't make promises that you can't keep, that's all.

9 Jun 2015 10:34

Intro: Romans 15:4 “For
whatever was written before was written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the encouragement of the
Scriptures we may have hope.”

What truths are found in the Old Testament that will instruct and encourage us to
a deeper trust with God?

What can we learn about the relationship to our finances
and faith?

God is the same
yesterday today and
forever. He is generous
even in the Old Testament so the world will see His
hand of blessing on His

2 Corinthians 9:11 “God will make you rich enough so that you can always be generous. Your generosity
will produce thanksgiving to
God because of us.”

I. Trust God with your first fruits (Malachi 3.7-12)

7 "Since the days of your fathers, you have turned from My statutes; you have
not kept [them]. Return to Me, and I will return to you," says the LORD of Hosts.
A) The real issue
What is God after? When it comes to what God wants it’s
you!! God desires that none would perish that all would come to repentance. That
means that He really wants everyone to turn or return to Him and see that He is
gracious. This is the basis for our relationship with God.
We can turn or return to Him.

B) The related issue
obedience to God’s principles If we have not turned toward
God we will not observe His principles. What is one of the
saddest and sickest things about the church in Zimbabwe?

Can I do this and still be

Can I smoke and be ok with God?

Can I cheat on my wife and be ok?

Is it ok that I shack up with this girl?

Is it okay if I talk about my pastor behind his back?

Is it ok if I talk about so and so?

If you are seeing just how much you can push your freedom then I don’t believe you have been set free yet!

1 Cor 16.2 “As the Lord has prospered you.” God gives us principles in His word to guide and direct us. This
isn’t any different with our giving. God has given us principles to lead us to freedom from our
What are we resisting when we resist God’s precepts and principles?

We resist trusting Him.
What principles have we learned?

God owns it all. God
makes us generous so that we can be generous. Learning to Give as God directs leads to freedom. God
treasures our hearts.
Worldly treasures can be a roadblock to allowing God to
have His treasure. God calls us to be stewards
Abraham Zacheus
Widow of Zarepheth
Widow with two mites
The cost of not obeying God

– A curseII. Trust God to keep His promises
If you return to me and do as I say regarding giving I will bless you.

Why? Remember 2
Cor 9.11. God gives to us so that we can be generous always.

A) It will grow your faith You will see God again and again be faithful as you learn
to trust Him and hear his voice to make you more generous.

9 Jun 2015 10:59

How to Forgive a
Promise Breaker

Promises are like crying
babies in a theater, they
should be carried out at
once. ~Norman Vincent Peale
Associating with a person
who makes a lot of promises
but consistently breaks
them, or simply doesn't keep
them, is challenging. It is
even harder if they're a
member of your family or
somebody whom you
consider to be a close friend,
or even a boss or mentor
whom you have trusted. In
particular, a history of
shared experiences and
feelings can make it very
hard for you to know how to
handle this person.
Nevertheless, if their
continued broken promises
are making your life
unpleasant and you feel
used up, discarded, ignored,
or just plain messed about, it
is essential to deal with the
promise breaker and then
forgive them. Note that
forgiving doesn't mean
forgetting or letting them get
away with it; it means that
you reach a space of letting
go and no longer allow this
person to call the shots and
ruin your chances at
enjoying your life.

9 Jun 2015 11:07

Consider your

It is important
to acknowledge your
feelings about the broken
promises. If you sweep
these feelings under the
rug and keep allowing
yourself to fall for this
person's promises in the
hope that he or she will
change, it's time for a
reality check. The very
fact you are reading this
title shows that you have
started to wake up to the
potential damage the
constant promise-breaking
is doing to your psyche.
Own your feelings and use
these to guide you
through the remaining

9 Jun 2015 11:14

Consider the behavior
in question.

Think about
the "promises" that this
person has broken and
how many times you have
been in the position of
letting them get away with
it by excusing their
behavior for many
reasons. Then ask
yourself these questions:
In what way do you
perceive these as
promises being made to
me? Are you justified in
this viewpoint? (See
Why do you let
yourself believe in this
person who make
promises to you that
you know he or she will
not keep?
Why do you keep
hoping that he or she
will make good on what
is promised?
Why do you need to
have this person fulfill
the promise?
Why are you giving
this person yet another

9 Jun 2015 11:18

Write down your
responses to these

Think about
the answers. You should
begin to ascertain the
pattern and your own
weaknesses. Consider
those weaknesses - do
they surface only with this
person, or generally?
Consider the ways in which
you might meet these
weaknesses with better
self-talk, clarity of
thought, and promises that
you make to yourself not
to let another person be
your source of hope and

9 Jun 2015 11:19

Think about how it
makes you feel when
this person breaks

The previous
exercise had you asking
yourself the reasons for
why you respond in the
way that you do to what
you perceive as promises.
This one is about asking
yourself to express your
Do you feel lonely
without this person's
Do you feel worried
about losing this
Do you feel that there
is something "special"
between the two of you
that you want to guard
( jealously) from
Do you feel needy, sad,
lonely, depressed,
down, angry, scared,
lost, etc. in general and
find that this person
somehow alleviates
these feelings even
though you know that
he or she will rarely
come to your
perspective or aid?

9 Jun 2015 11:21

Confront the situation
through visualization

Do this in two
stages, the first talking
back to yourself and the
second, talking to the
To yourself -
Acknowledge that you
are fed up of the
broken promises, that
this person cannot be
trusted, that this is not
worth subjugating
yourself to any longer.
Trust yourself, believe
in yourself, and stand
up for yourself.
To the promise-
breaker - Write a
script and play it over
in your head. In this
script, tell the promise-
breaker how you feel
about being constantly
subjected to broken
promises and how it
has reached a point at
which you no longer
wish to be friends
unless they make an
effort to keep their

9 Jun 2015 11:22

Confront the promise-
breaker for real.

is the time for assertive
behavior and constructive
criticism. Avoid blame,
avoid saying "you"
statements. (See How to
Practice Nonviolent
.) Stick with how their
broken promises make you
feel, and why you see
their promises as being
both "broken", and as
"promises" (hence the
reasons why you did the
exercises above). Tell the
How this has made you
How this has impacted
your personal/
professional life (give
concrete examples)
Why it is that you feel
you can no longer place
the same level of trust
in your relationship
with them (give
examples of the key
time or series of times
they have proven
incapable of maintaining
the promise)
How you still care about
them as a person but
that it is time to let
them know you will no
longer be asking for
their word, as you
simply cannot rely on it
(this ties in with the
next step on
forgiveness; you are
not rupturing the
relationship, just
ordering it clearly).

9 Jun 2015 11:26


For your own
sake, it is important to
forgive. Be compassionate
in your approach; the
promise-breaker often
doesn't see this anywhere
near as seriously as you
do, even if they feel a
twinge of guilt. For them, it
could well be a case of
"easy come, easy go",
especially since they don't
hold promise-keeping to a
high enough standard. In
forgiving, you will benefit
from doing the following:
Assess how serious
the promise breach
actually was. Is it worth
breaking a relationship
over? Or is it simply
better to just make it
clear to the promise-
breaker that for now,
you can't trust them (or
maybe ever), but that
you'll remain a friend/
collaborator, etc. In
general, try to find the
path of least resistance
for the sake of
maintaining cordial,
even friendly,
relations. Yet, if it is so
terrible for you that
you cannot bear this
person any longer,
part amicably and
sincerely, but with
clarity that things are
finished between you.
Put yourselves into
their shoes. Ask
yourself what you
would have done in the
same position. Are you
being too judgmental,
too harsh? Was the
promise one that was
easier said than done?
Think about your
relationship with this
person 5 years from
now. Do you want this?
Or not? How easy will it
be to walk away and
start anew with a new
mentor, etc.?
Is this the lesson you
had to learn?
Remember the Danish
saying that "eggs and
oaths are easily
broken". How much a
role did your own
naivete play in what
panned out? Perhaps it
is time for classes in
assertiveness, where
you can comfortably
learn to say "no"
, and to recognize
when someone is
behaving in a way that
is just no good for you

9 Jun 2015 11:27

Live the forgiveness.

You don't need to forget
to forgive; indeed, to do
so would be foolish or
you'd repeat your errors.
Learn from the experience
and apply it wisely down
the track. But do let go.
Don't wear this issue
around your neck forever
more, bleating about the
injustices to others every
chance you have. By all
means talk things through
with someone you trust as
a means for righting your
perspective and moving
on, but don't harbor
anger, or harp on about
what happened. To do so
would be to allow the
promise-breaker to keep
on breaking your heart.
Ultimately, your
compassionate empathy in
understanding their
motivation and in
distancing yourself and
shoring up your own
defenses is the best form
of forgiveness possible.

9 Jun 2015 11:39

“For if the inheritance
comes by the law, it no
longer comes by
promise; but God gave
it to Abraham by a
promise” ( Galatians
3:18, ESV).

Someone once asked a
politician, “Have you kept all
the promises that you made
during the campaign?” He
responded, “Yes . . . well, at
least all the promises that I
intended to keep.”
Who hasn’t, at one time or
another, been at one end or
the other of a broken
promise? Who hasn’t been
the one to break a promise
or the one to have a
promise made to him or her

Sometimes people make a
promise, fully intending to
keep it, but, later, don’t;
others make a promise,
knowing—as the sounds
leave their mouths or the
letters their fingers—it’s all
a lie.
Fortunately for us, God’s
promises are of an entirely
different order. God’s Word
is sure and unchanging. “ ‘I
have spoken, and I will
bring it to pass; I have
purposed, and I will do it,’ ”
says the Lord ( Isa. 46:11,

directs our attention to the
relationship between God’s
promise to Abraham and the
law given to Israel 430
years later. How should the
relationship between the two
be understood, and what
implications does that have
for the preaching of the

9 Jun 2015 19:53

This nice

27 Mar 2016 10:04

a saying goes promises are meant to be broken...on my part i believe in this saying and honestly its hard for me to again trust with ones promises ones he broke the frst promise...we are just human so i can forgive but always breaking promises is not a good sign...this only means tht person is hard to be trusted even in other matters.